Karen Pence believed rioters could shoot “through the window” of the room where she took shelter with her husband on January 6

Former Second Lady Karen Pence announced Monday that while she “never” feared for her life on Jan. 6, 2021, she closed the curtains in then-Vice President Mike Pence’s Senate office for fear someone might spot her inside and start shooting.

In an interview with ABC News’ Linsey Davis on ‘Good Morning America’Karen Pence, 66, recalled the harrowing moments as she and her husband huddled in the former vice president’s Senate office as rioters stormed the Capitol.

Also with Karen were her daughter and brother-in-law, MP Greg Pence (R-Ind.)

The former second lady said “conditioning” by the Secret Service caused her to close the curtains in Mike Pence’s office minutes after her evacuation from the Senate.

Mike Pence's Senate office on January 6, 2021.
Karen Pence closed the curtains in her husband’s office in the Capitol building on Jan. 6, 2021, because of Secret Service “conditioning,” she said Monday.
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Karen Pence.
Karen Pence says she “never” feared for the life of herself or her husband on Jan. 6.
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“Every time we traveled, they had bulletproof travel glass in every hotel room. So it’s a conditioning thing that I just knew. “If you’re in a situation where someone could shoot through the window, just draw the curtains,” Karen Pence said. “That was my thought at the time: ‘Wait a minute.’ Something’s starting to move out there. Let’s close the curtains.’”

She also recalled that she and her husband rented a house in the Washington DC area during the post-election transition period to the presidency in 2016 and got their first taste of this type of intelligence “conditioning.”

“The Secret Service put block paper all over the windows and you couldn’t even see outside,” Karen Pence recalled.

Mike Pence.
Mike Pence has accused Donald Trump of endangering his family with his actions on January 6th.

Riot in the US Capitol.
Trump has been indicted by the Justice Department for his actions leading up to the Capitol riot.

Mike Pence, a Republican presidential nominee for the primary, has criticized former President Donald Trump for his actions leading up to the riots and accused his rival in 2024 of being “reckless” and endangering his family.

“The president’s words were reckless and his actions were reckless,” the 64-year-old former vice president told ABC’s David Muir in November.

“The President’s words that day at the rally put me, my family and everyone in the Capitol at risk,” he added.

Despite the curtains being drawn, Karen Pence said she was never afraid during the riot.

“I was just discussing this with someone here in Iowa a few minutes ago, I was never scared,” the former second lady said.

“I really felt that we had so much peace and the presence of God,” she said. “And just a sense of purpose and determination, I don’t think any of us in the whole group – all of the staff and everyone with us – I don’t think any of us were afraid. I think we had a sense of determination.”

Earlier this month, Trump, 77, surrendered to law enforcement and pleaded not guilty to a four-tier Justice Department indictment alleging he disrupted the peaceful transfer of power by making “knowingly false” voter fraud allegations used in the escalation culminated in the US Capitol Building by hundreds of his supporters on January 6, 2021.


JACLYN DIAZ is a USTimeToday U.S. News Reporter based in London. His focus is on U.S. politics and the environment. He has covered climate change extensively, as well as healthcare and crime. JACLYN DIAZ joined USTimeToday in 2023 from the Daily Express and previously worked for Chemist and Druggist and the Jewish Chronicle. He is a graduate of Cambridge University. Languages: English. You can get in touch with me by emailing diza@ustimetoday.com.

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