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Eighties pop duo Tears for Fears release new album The Tipping Point

Roland Orzabal said: “The mission is to be the representative of our album, at the age of 60.

“How can we bring our life experiences good and bad to the table and create something that can be said to people. Our best work, and the work that spans the years, is what resonates with people. “

Roland Orzabal says: 'Our best work, and the work that spans the years, is what resonates with people'

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Roland Orzabal says: ‘Our best work, and the work that spans the years, is what resonates with people’Credit: PR Document
Tears for Fears wrote classic pop songs including Mad World, Shout, Everybody Wants To Rule The World and Sow the Seeds of Love after its founding in 1981.

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Tears for Fears wrote classic pop songs including Mad World, Shout, Everybody Wants To Rule The World and Sow the Seeds of Love after its founding in 1981.Credits: Rex Features

Tears For Fears – Orzabal and Curt Smith – are recalling why the first version of their brilliant new and seventh studio album, The Tipping Point, was scrapped and rebooted when the two decided “not Tears For Fears”.

They were encouraged by their former manager to collaborate with other musicians including Bastille’s Dan Smith and Sacha Skarbek, who wrote James Blunt’s You’re Beautiful and Miley Cyrus’ Wrecking Ball.

And while they were pleased with some of these songs, the Tears For Fears album didn’t.

Orzabal added: “Our then-manager didn’t want to sell us anymore as recording artists.

“He wanted us to be like a legacy artist. One of the first times he watched us play live in Dallas, he saw that we were good and wanted us to go on.

“He immediately saw the potential to make money from touring, but instinctively he didn’t trust us to just work on our own and make a real Tears For Fears album. He wants to inject some alien DNA, we’ll tell. “

Having written classic pop songs including Mad World, Shout, Everybody Wants To Rule The World and Sowing the Seeds of Love, it seems absurd that the duo, who formed the band in Bath in 1981 after meeting when were teenagers, were not encouraged to write their own albums.

Orzabal continued: “He said at the time, ‘Think of Tina Turner when she comes back and works on Heaven 17. That’s what I want’.”

Now with the same caretaker manager Harry Styles, Orzabal and Smith are looking to the future.

I met the friendly couple in a central London hotel, where they were on the third day of a promotional interview and radio appearance.

They were tired but still very excited as they taped a Piano Room lesson on the magical BBC Radio 2 on Monday with the BBC Concert Orchestra.

“We really enjoyed playing with an orchestra. That’s something we want to do more of.

“But it’s weird looking back at me with my witch-like hair,” Orzabal said of the white mane that has now replaced his old black hair.

“You can see us physically aging in The Tipping Point video – we’re not trying to hide it and mentally we’re still pretty young.

“We were recently asked, ‘What would The Tears For Fears 1982 think about Tears For Fears 2022?’

“And beyond the horror those people will feel when they see us at 60, they’ll hear the album and they’ll be so impressed they probably won’t do another record.”

Tipping Point is a great record that will bring this duo a lot of praise.

The pair enjoyed a renaissance with Lorde’s cover of Everybody Wants To Rule The World and Gary Jules’ version of Mad World while The 1975, Kanye West and Weeknd all considered Tears For Fears an influence.

“Our former manager wanted to monetize this and mass produce it, but we disagreed with him,” Orzabal said.

“Like with Coldplay – Everyday Life they’re pushing the envelope. It’s a great album. I went to see them in LA and loved it but Music From The Spheres is an industrial album. They work with BTS is about commercial expectations.

There are so many areas of mental health that we don’t understand.

Roland Orzabal

“I listened to that album once and I didn’t understand.”

Fame was never Orzabal and Smith’s goal.

The idyllic couple usually stays out of the limelight, spending time only with their family.

They turned down Live Aid when they needed a vacation and it’s been 17 years since their last studio album, Everybody Loves A Happy Ending.

The pair have sold more than 30 million records worldwide but spent ten years without speaking when Smith left the band in 1991 and moved to New York.

Smith, who lives in LA, says, “We actually released more hits than albums. We had breaks between some records for life.

“When we both had children, we gathered there for them because we were both from home away from home.

“After that, touring became very successful, which meant we could hang out for two months in the summer, then come back with some money and enjoy ourselves a little.”

“Yes,” Orzabal added. “We had some pocket money and a family life – a happy family was more important.

“We were pop stars when we were kids, then as we got older, we didn’t see ourselves that way.”

Never afraid to tackle the heavy stuff, Tears For Fears’ songs deal with depression, political protest, and domestic violence.

And it’s about the heartbreaking loss of his first wife, childhood sweetheart Caroline, who in 2017 allowed Orzabal to revisit and complete The Tipping Point and mend his friendship with Smith.

Married for 35 years, Caroline struggled with menopause and alcohol, which led to her death.

Our former manager wanted to monetize this and mass produce it for us, but we disagreed with him.

Roland Orzabal

She was ill for 5 years and developed alcoholic dementia.

“There are a lot of areas of mental health that we don’t understand,” Orzabal said.

“If someone suddenly changes personality, if they suddenly go from extrovert to withdrawn, it’s hard to understand.

“Caroline lost her parents when they were young and I think she never fully dealt with that.

“She’s always been haunted by death, like her mother was at that age, but she hasn’t even reached that age. She’s 55 years old.

“Special songs about Caroline, The Tipping Point, and Please Be Happy, were written when she was sick.”

Please Be Happy, sung by Smith, is a heartbreakingly beautiful song.

“You never really believe that someone is going to die,” Orzabal said. If something becomes too painful, you don’t handle it, so composing is a therapy.

“But I still couldn’t listen to that song and the first time I heard Curt sing it was hard. Oh, I was about to cry.”

Sadness is still evident. “The way we program the album is very important.

“My demons punch you in the face. Then, when you’re ready to submit, the Rivers Of Mercy creeps in and you start to feel a tingling down your spine.

“But it really softens your heart because of the killer, Please Be Happy, who is very sad. It was sad when I left the studio while we were playing it back because that song just destroyed me.”

Roland and I are like a marriage and like any marriage, we tend to blame each other when things don’t go our way. We reached a point in 2019 on tour when we really didn’t talk to each other.

Curt Smith

Smith said it was difficult for him to see his friend grieve over his loss.

“It’s hard to watch anyone you grow up with go through that pain but the only thing I can do is step out of it. It doesn’t help us stay together.

“Roland and I are like a marriage and like any marriage, we tend to blame each other when things don’t go our way. We reached a point in 2019 on tour when we really didn’t talk to each other. “

Orzabal said 2018 was a bleak year for him. “Caroline passed away and things started to go badly for me.”

He suffered seizures and was eventually hospitalized and also had two voluntary stays in rehabilitation as he struggled with the side effects of pain medication.

“It took me the best time of that year to get together,” Orzabal said.

In 2019, Orzabal, who has now found happiness with his second wife Emily, decided to get back in touch with Smith and the pair met for lunch then went back to Curt’s house to celebrate, which they did. Haven’t done it for many years.

The result was the opening of the album No Small Thing.

The cooperation between two friends without any interference from the manager or the brand.

“I really want to move forward,” Orzabal said. There were about five tracks that we started working on and I needed to reconnect with Curt. It is not very difficult at all.

“When we say we failed, it means we don’t communicate, so when we do, it’s easy.”

No Small Thing is one of the outstanding songs.

The Tipping Point is an album of now. There are some songs that are very contemplative, some of the themes sadder, but it still leaves you with a sense of optimism.

Curt Smith

But there isn’t a single song on the album.

Rivers Of Mercy, Long, Long, Long Time and Master Plan are all there with the best songs Tears For Fears ever made.

And the pair managed to include new songs as they hit the road in May in the US, arriving in the UK in July.

Orzabal revealed, “I had the idea to start the show with No Small Thing.

“But I need to talk to Curt about it.”

The Tipping Point is an album that reconciles Tears For Fears and re-evaluates their place in music history.

But most importantly, it made them re-evaluate their friendship.

“We know how much we mean to each other and what’s important,” Orzabal said. “You can hear it on this album.”

Smith said: “The Tipping Point is an album of now. There are some songs that are very contemplative, some of the themes sadder, but it still leaves you with a sense of optimism.

“This is the last Tears For Fears album and we both are, so proud of it.”

  • Tipping Point launches today and is on tour in the UK in July 2022.

Tears of Fear – Destination

★★★★★

Tipping Point launches today and UK tour in July 2022

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Tipping Point launches today and UK tour in July 2022

Tears of Fear – Destination

  1. Not small
  2. Due point
  3. Long, Long, Long, Long
  4. Break The Man
  5. My Devil
  6. Rivers of Mercy
  7. Be happy
  8. Master plan
  9. All night
  10. Stay
Roland said: 'We were recently asked, 'What do Tears For Fears 1982 think about Tears For Fears 2022?  '

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Roland said: ‘We were recently asked, ‘What do Tears For Fears 1982 think about Tears For Fears 2022? ‘Credit: PR Document
The Tipping Point is an album that reconciles Tears For Fears and re-evaluates their place in music history

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The Tipping Point is an album that reconciles Tears For Fears and re-evaluates their place in music historyCredit: AP
Curt Smith said: 'The Tipping Point is an album of now.  There are some songs that are very contemplative, some of the themes are sadder, but it still leaves you with a sense of optimism'

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Curt Smith said: ‘The Tipping Point is an album of now. There are some songs that are very contemplative, some of the themes are sadder, but it still leaves you with a sense of optimism’Credit: EPA

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